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guapagirl



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Mandelic acid? Reply with quote

Does any one have any experience of this type of acid and are there any dangers with using it? I've just got this stuff and want to know how often would be safe to apply it.

Every day for a few weeks and then a break, or two or three times a week?

Any imput?

Liz

http://dianayvonne.com/c=I3Q6DYHBOJPJ7vhyil7UbUPAI/product/VIVMAND15
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orangehrzn



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using the Nucelle Mandelic acid 10% serum for a few months. Mandelic acid is really the least irritable exfoliator I know. I've found that if I use it twice per day my skin gets tight (that's dead epidermis) and starts to peel and flake. The manifacturer claims that if you continue with application the peeling and flaking will stop but my experience doesn't show that. The most I can use it is once per day.

It controls pimples but not at 100% level. The Nucelle serum has a nice base which is partially silicones and have a very nice matte look when it dries out.

Some people claimed that Mandelic acid helps with enlarged pores, acne scarring and spider veins. My observations (a few months experience) shows there isn't such a thing ... It is just the nice base of the serum covers skin defects like that ...

The Vivant formulation is 15% as far as I remember and supposedly 'cleaner' than Nucelle although I never had problems with Nucelle - it didnt break me out. The price of Vivant though is inflated compared to Nucelle. These are simple exfoliators and should cost at most $5/oz if you ask me...
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guapagirl



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Oranges,

I'm not after treating scarring, pores or spider veins, I just wanted an exfoliant that didn't burn all my skin off! I agree that these things shouldn't cost much, but even nucell costs more than $5 per oz and it seems to have a lot of unecessary stuff in it.

You say you actually get flaking with mandelic? Is that only when used 2x per day or 1x a day as well? Do you take breaks from using it? Have you tried the 15% version as well?

Sorry for so many questions!
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orangehrzn



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get flaking only if I apply twice per 24 hours. My skin tolerates it without flaking if I apply once per 24 hours like in the morning and then wash in the evening.

I haven't tried the 15% first cause it will be too strong for my skin, and second it's overpriced.
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guapagirl



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers, Liz :)
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maxxilla



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone tried working with mandelic acid in DIY stuff?
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orangehrzn



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would try if I could find a supplier. It must be pretty easy to formulate.
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maxxilla



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm searching, too. This may be of help:

Synonyms of mandelic acid --
http://pubchem.com/chemical/Phenylglycolic_acid.html

and this website was mentioned on another board --
http://www.sciencelab.com/search.php?q=mandelic+acid&btnSearch=+Search

eta: great, it's a chemical that can be used to make crystal meth...how long until it can't be purchased (a la sudafed)? :roll:
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NickJeter



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is mandelic both oil soulbe and water soluble?
is it a humectant like other aha's?
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Cori Renee



Joined: 19 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just ordered MaMa Lotion (mandelic/malic acid) and was curious if that could be used in conjunction with the OCM (oil cleansing method)
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orangehrzn



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Mandelic acid is both water and oil soluble.
In retrospect, it can be as irritable as any other exfoliant, the irritation accumulates gradually, at the end the side of face where I used it was REDDER than the Retin-A micro. You do the conclusion.

Humectant? As any exfoliator, it flakes off the epidermis, don't rely on advertised 'humectant' properties to keep your skin moist - it simply doesn't matter when the skin flakes.
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Cori Renee



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

orangehrzn wrote:
Yes Mandelic acid is both water and oil soluble.
In retrospect, it can be as irritable as any other exfoliant, the irritation accumulates gradually, at the end the side of face where I used it was REDDER than the Retin-A micro. You do the conclusion.


Thanks :)
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jones10021



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen some posts on Acne.org. Check it out.
"Mandelic acid is amazing against blackheads and acne ..., Exfoliates and tightens pores; antibacterial; anti-inflammatory"
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Cori Renee



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jones10021 wrote:
I've seen some posts on Acne.org. Check it out.
"Mandelic acid is amazing against blackheads and acne ..., Exfoliates and tightens pores; antibacterial; anti-inflammatory"


I am a member there and will check that out :) thanks
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