help..what can get rid of these lines?

claudek · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 101

Here is a pic of my crows feet wrinkles and also some hyper- pigmentation.
What would you recommend to clear these up? Any help..Do not like.
I did botox last year and it did the job, but wondering if it would make lines worse.

merton · Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 80

You might consider getting the Doc's infopack for eyes if you haven't already. You'll probably want all 4 after reading that.

Also, your eyes don't look bad. Botox is probably too extreme at present.

-merton

claudek · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 101

Thanks for your info and help.
I am trying to avoid the botox route and would prefer a topical method that may work. I have order this under eye serum by Xeridian skincare and I will be curious if it will minimize these wrinkles.

Maria954 · Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 2

Well have you tried using all natural products ? Im a Estetition and most of my clients that have crows feet I recommend a product from Placentor Usa . Its called eye and lip contour . It works great . you will see results in about one week or two . I really strongly suggest this product to anyone with wrinkles or crows . If you want more information you can visit there website
Nutrivea-usa.com
Good luck and take care
Maria

claudek · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 101

Thanks Maria..How does it work? I am using a all natural serum and I see fine lines slowly fading and not as strong as before..Any before and after pics from this? I never heard of it.

merton · Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 80

I prefer Eyeliss(tm) and after a month the eye area has cleaned itself up quite a bit. I mix it with sterile presevative free eye tears in a needless 5cc syringe which is the best applicator at any price.

claudek · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 101

Hi & thanks for your info:)
Did you edit your last post? I thought I had seen info about some other company that has a new product like botox without injections..Vialox?
I am thinking of ordering it, but wondering if effects are long term after use,or just like temporary like botox.

http://www.cellularskinrx.com/products_vialox.html

merton · Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 80

Yes, I edited it because it probably belongs in a new category.

Nobody is pretending it lasts. The claim is that it is far more pronounced than Argireline(tm) acetyl hexapeptide-3. (49%) I haven't reviewed the testing results. They are both distributed thru Centerchem, Inc.

:http://www.centerchem.com/Catg1.asp?Cat1ID=20

Look at the pdf files for many of their chemicals.

-merton

claudek · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 101

Hi,
Thanks again. For the moment, I am trying and using Xerideum Under Eye Serum for three weeks now and see many fine lines I once had like laugh lines are not as deep, or even visible. Maybe it is just less dry air as Spring or my skin has more color now ,then in winter, but seems overall better. Who knows..I want to try to stay to this program for at least 2-3 months , then decide if it is good or not. I do not want to mix and match..

They claim results are over time.
http://xeridianskincare.com/Browse_Item_Details.asp/Item_ID/576292/categ_id/2/parent_ids/0,2/Name/Ultra_Eye_Serum

merton · Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 80

You might want to look at Dr. T's infopack regarding potential hazard of using a copper peptide simultaneously with vitamin C (abscorbic acid).

Using argireline(tm) underneath the eye is not recommended because it is a relaxant and thus may cause sag. It's indicated for the forehead, crow's feet and around the sides of the mouth.

DMAE does the exact opposite of what argireline(tm) does. Namely it is a tightener while argireline(tm) is a relaxant. Using them on the same part of the face at the same time makes no sense.

The description of the polypeptides are so vague that identification is impossible. Each polypeptide has a different action. Only a few may be active. The quantities are also not indicated.

There are too many active ingredients.

claudek · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 101

Hi,
So you are saying this Xerideum serum could do more damage than good?
I wonder sometimes if this is just some guy in California making this stuff in his kitchen and has a pro, modern looking website and ships it out at his local post office. I must say their emails and responses seem pretty knowlegable and all.
So you think I should try Eyeliss? I do not feel good about injecting myself with a needle.

merton · Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 80

I'm pointing out the items that cause alarms to go off. In the case of the copper peptide in the same compound as abscorbic acid it is a safety issue and its addressed in the skinrejuvination infopack at the home tab. You are begining to see the big picture now and are asking the right questions. But the final conclusion is your's alone.

I wasn't suggesting injecting anything anywhere. Note the word "needleless" before the word syringe. They're available from makingcosmetics.com for 50 cents (5CC or 5ml). You could use an eyedropper bottle but its not as precise. They can also place an ultrafine line of an active directly in a wrinkle.

I use Eyeliss(tm) and it works better than anything I've tried yet. With something that goes around the eye sterility is of the utmost importance. I always clean the applicator out with isopropyl rubbing alcohol and then let it dry (to avoid alcohol in the eye). I also store all my skincare chems/products in clamp down stainless steel cylinders with glass top (bed bath and beyond). For dark circles I add chrysin which desolves the cause.

If you buy a product that contains Eyeliss(tm) it should contain 4-5%. It should state this on the label. If it doesn't tell you the quantity of the active you can pretty much assume that there's too little rather than too much. Post it and get opinions before you buy.

Please keep in mind that someone probably has made an equally "lets throw in everything and the kitchen sink" type product with Eyeliss(tm) and chrysin. When you have the proper concentrations of effective actives is good to avoid interference because all ingredients compete for a limited surface area.

I ordered some of the vialox(tm) product we spoke of. We'll see.
-merton

claudek · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 101

Hi Merton,
I read some article about this mix of coumpounds and Xerideum came up with some reply that made sense to some. I agree more is not only mean better. It is the proper mixture and balance. I will have to try this Eyeless .
Thanks

merton · Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 80

I ordered some of the ingredient I posted and removed the other day. I'll let you know if it seems to work for me.

-merton

claudek · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 101

I would be curious. I now notice under my eyes these laugh lines I never had before..Guess it is the age :)
almost 39.