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PocoLoco
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 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: How to determine cause of dark circles |
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Hi...new here...
I just read the Dr's post: | Quote: | | sometimes dark circles are be due to pigmentation not vascularity |
How does a person determine the cause of their dark circles? I have had dark circles under my eyes since I was 12, sometimes they're a bit better, sometimes worse. Now that I'm 47 yrs old, I have puffiness and fine lines in addition to the darkness. I can find products that help with puffiness but nothing that helps with all three issues.
I'd love some advice on choosing the best product.
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orangehrzn
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| We discussed that in another thread but I can't find it. If the dark circles are due to visible capillaries they should respond to pressure - If you press them they should become pale. If they are due to melanin pigment, they don't respond to pressure. |
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PocoLoco
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Ah hah! That's awesome. A simple test. :D
I'll try it and see. So if I'm understanding the products correctly, an arbutin or kojic acid type product would work best for melanin related circles, where as horse chestnut, vit. K, or ? (suggestions?) would work best for circulation-related circles. |
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orangehrzn
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Kojic acid, hydroquinone etc. work for melanin pigmentation.
There is nothing proven that works for capillaries topically. I have spider veins and some other people and I have tried vit K cream - it did nothing.
The personal formulator sells an ingredient (haloxyl) that supposedly dissolves the pigments due to hemoglobin biproducts inside the capillaries. I've suggested it several times but nobody reported anything on it. |
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PocoLoco
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm...I purchased Eyeliss from SkinActives...wonder if the Eyeliss contains that ingredient; I'll have to check it out.
Thanks for your feedback--much appreciated. |
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ebeth33
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I used to have very dark circles around the time I would get chronic bladder infections. The Chinese believe that dark under eye circles are due to kidney problems, and when I heard that, :shock: I was blown away because I had had two! I now seem to be okay both with my kidneys and my dark circles. What do I do? I drink red wine almost on a daily basis it's a potent anti-oxident, probably not the best choice. I'd go with green tea. I thought it was hereditary as my grandma had hella circles (we're italian) But I swear I'm not having dark circles and found a NOTICABLE improvement after I ate loads of Romaine lettuce (high in vitamin K) almost daily as well. |
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orthomolecular
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| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: two type of circles depending on skin tone |
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There are two types of dark circles and I think it should be easy to figure out which ones you have.
Usually fair skin people get circles from allergies, lack of sleep, anemia, or some other health problem. This is not pigmentation. I believe that usually dark skin people will only have a problem with excess pigmentation underneath the eye. The pigmentation can be helped with something from a visit to a dermatologist and also prevented with sunscreen. |
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skinyouth7
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| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: dark skin only |
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| ortho , i do not completely agree , coz am from Indian origin (asia) , but my doc says my dark circles could be due to allergy and asked me to take the blood work |
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SageRave
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| ebeth33 wrote: | | I used to have very dark circles around the time I would get chronic bladder infections. The Chinese believe that dark under eye circles are due to kidney problems, and when I heard that, :shock: I was blown away because I had had two! I now seem to be okay both with my kidneys and my dark circles. What do I do? I drink red wine almost on a daily basis it's a potent anti-oxident, probably not the best choice. I'd go with green tea. I thought it was hereditary as my grandma had hella circles (we're italian) But I swear I'm not having dark circles and found a NOTICABLE improvement after I ate loads of Romaine lettuce (high in vitamin K) almost daily as well. |
Dark circles, associated with internal organs, are caused by the build up of fluid pressure, which causes the blood vessels under the eye to expand and show through the thin skin. You will see dark circles in most situations where pressure, due to fluid, builds up. That includes allergies, colds, flu, kidney issues, constipation, liver disease, and anything else that will lead to your blood vessels or sinuses building up pressure. |
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