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Sadiemay



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Best skincare regime for damaged dehydrated skin... Reply with quote

Hi there,

Please can someone advise me on a effective skincare regime for my face.

I currently suffer from "dehyrated" skin. My skin feels tight alot of the skin but goes into overdrive with oil production and I am constantly using blotting sheets on it.

I have ALOT of open pores and fine lines/wrinkles which I think are due to the wrong skincare regime over many years. I am 32 BTW.

I really want to do the right thing for my skin and try to recover from the damage I have done if at possible but am at a complete loss as to what is best. I have spent a small fortune of many many products and lotions and potions over the years from high street ranges to specialist high end ranges. And nothing seems to ever suit my skin or produce any improvements.


ANY advice would be much appreciated.

Many thanks
Sadiemay
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orangehrzn



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best you can do if your skin tolerates it is Retin-A of course, the Renova version is reported the least irritable, yet able to smooth out skin.

Second best is Afirm 2X, which is a retinol middle strength product - not irritable if you start slowly but still able to smooth skin.


Third are the the Avene retinaldehyde lines: Eluage, retrinal, Diroseal. They contain non-irritable retinoid that improves skin texture and evens out color, not sure if they will help fine lines but you could try.

Retinoids take months to see good results. If your skin gets irritated, decrease frequency of application, start with every 3 days, then every two days etc.
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Sadiemay



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

Many thanks for your reply.

I will look into Renova as it sounds quite promising.

I cant afford to spend another 700GBP on laser treatments if they yield no results. So I will investigate the possiblity of the creams you mention.

Thanks again
Sadiemay
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Sadiemay



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

I have just ordered a Retin A 0.5 cream. I was not able to order Renova as it seems to order prescription creams is quite difficult. So I had to make do with what I could find.

Do you think they are all pretty much the same and do the sae job?. The one I ordered I was not able to see the brand so I am a bit anxious as to whether it will be of good quality/effective.

Any opinions would be much appreciated. I am also going to buy some Cetaphil cleanser tonight and start using that in the hopeit aleviates my dry tight, dehyrated skin.

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Sadiemay
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orangehrzn



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried retinoids before?

Renova is supposedly less irritable than the equivalent concentration of Retin A. You can buy it from medsmex.com without prescription.

Generic Retin A is not necessarily worse than brand name but I've tried some indian "Retino" 0.5% and it was rather irritable - gave me a rash like breakout.

Cleansers are not gonna help with dry skin so if you don't use sunscreens or makeup that requires cleansers for removal, it's best to stay away from cleansers. They are capable of aggravating irritation from retinoids so best is just use filtered water.

Before your Retin A arrives, you could try avocado oil at night to aleviate dry skin. It's non comedogenic and smooths the skin surface pretty well. Keep in mind that once you start the retinoids, the avocado oil is NOT compatible with them, if the skin is too exfoliated from the retinoids that avocado oil penetrates too deep and becomes irritable - will make skin redder.
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Sadiemay



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey orangehrzn,

No I have never used Retinoids before at all and have no clue what to expect really.

I am based in the UK and cant find anyone who sells Revona without a prescription in here or in Europe. Retin A Cream 0.5 was the only thing I could find. They had other strength I think 0.1, 0.25. I dont know if this one will be too strong? Considering I have never used such products before.

Avocado Oil? Do you mean making a mask from a avocado or buying the actual oil from somewhere?

Unfortunately I wear full make-up every single day so I need to cleanse my skin with a cleanser and as far I as have researched maybe Cetaphil will help with the tightness and dehyration in my skin?

Sorry for all the queastions :(

Sadiemay
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orangehrzn



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

medsmex.com are based in mexico and ship internationally

avocado oil can be found either at health food stores or in the cooking oil section of some grocery stores

you could also use it to dissolve makeup first and then use small amount of regular cleanser to wash it off

'tight skin' means your skin wants to flake off its upper layer. that can be caused by overdoing exfoliators, cleansers, maybe makeup etc

in order for the skin to normalize it, you have to stop all topicals and makeup, it will take 1-2 weeks. 'tight skin' is simply not a normal skin condition
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Kiks



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Dry Skin Reply with quote

Before you try a retinoid, I would focus on your dry skin issues. Retinoids can further irritate already irritated or sensitive skin. Dry skin does look more aged, so you may not even need it. Make sure all the products you are using are gentle and do not strip the skin of all its natural oils. You may be using one that is doing this since you are experiencing excess oil.

WATER:
Try to double your intake of water, you are probably not getting enough!
Diet:
Cut back on foods and drinks that dehydrate, such as ones containing caffeine or MSG. Eat more foods that are high in "good" fats such as almonds and avocados.
Bathing:
Take shorter, lukewarm showers. Hot water can feel great, especially in the wintertime, but it also takes the moisture out of your skin. Make sure you are using a body cleanser containing a moisturizer. Also be very gentle with your skin when you are drying off by patting it dry instead of scrubbing. Follow these guidelines with washing your face aswell.
Exfoliating:
Very gently and not often! You might think that exfoliating will improve the flakiness of dry skin, but dry skin is less able to retain moisture, so you may actually be perpetuating a cycle.
Humidify:
If you live/work in a dry environment (central heating) get a humidifier! It will help a lot with treating and preventing dry skin.

Start with that and also moisturize with an oil free moisturizer and calming night cream despite oily skin, which will be cured once the dry skin is.
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Sadiemay



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks orangehrzn for your replies, I am going to buy some avocado oil and start using that. I did some research on the internet after your recommendation and found some positive feedback regarding this oil.


Hey Kiks, good points, thanks for those. I will try and drink more water. Do you think 2 litres a day is enough as thats what I currently drink BUT I drink alot of tea (maybe 8 cups a day) which has caffine in it. I guess I should cut back on the tea right?

As for gentle products I bought some Cetaphil last night based on some reviews on acne.org for use as a gentle cleanser especially if one will use such a product as Retin A, have you heard of this product?


Justt out of interest both as you both are knowledgeable about skin and how to combat the issues it brings. I have only suffered with this type of skin and the associated problems for the last 2 -3 years. Before hand my skin was always fine I just dont understand why its now gone so horribly horribly wrong :( ? Any ideas as to why my skin had got so dramatically bad?

Thanks again for taking time to reply to me.
Sadiemay
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Kiks



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two Liters is the general rule, but I would try pushing that to 3 Liters--more if you exercise. I started drinking A LOT of water not too long ago and I've seen a HUGE difference not only with my skin, but I also just feel much better. It's amazing how much simply drinking water can do!--although on the other hand I definitely frequent the ladies room more. As for the tea, it really depends how much caffeine it contains. Tea is good for you and I'm not quite sure how much is too much. Maybe cut back or switch to tea that contains less (green tea) or no caffeine.

I'm not quite sure what could be causing such a change in your skin. Try and think back to when you started noticing these changes. Did you move? Change jobs? Change products? Changes in hormones? Any one of these things could be the initial trigger along with several other possibilities.
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Sadiemay



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kiks,

I will aim to up my water intake to 3 litres as of today and see how I get on. Your right though. Since I increased my intake to 2 litres I do feel alot better in myself. Although like up you I am up and down like a yo-yo from my office to the ladies :lol:

Honestly there is nothing I can think of that has changed in the last 3 years since my skin decided to dramatically change for the worse. I live in the same house, work for the same corporation in same building etc...

Only thing I can contribute it to is not really looking after my skin in my 20's and using sunbeds alot when I am fair skinned. Apprently such lack of skincare in your youth and use of sunbeds only shows in your skin as you age! or so my derm and various beauticians have told me.

If I could turn the clock back my god I would! But I cant I just have to try and do the best for my skin now :( I just hope with all my might its not too late to make its appearance better.

Take care
Sadiemay
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Sadiemay



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear orangehrzn,

I have a quick question for you. You say once I start Retin A I should stop using avocado oil, is this just at night once I have applied Retin A so can I still use it in the morning over my vit. c serum?

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orangehrzn



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retinoids change how skin reacts to moisturizers. Retin A exfoliates the epidermis (uppermost layer of skin) and makes the skin more penetrable. Once you achive such a skin state, avocado oil will start to irritate the skin when applied.

Avocado oil is not very good for day use because it is too shiny, unless you apply it and then blot it.
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Sadiemay



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear orangehrzn,

Can you recommend a non oily but super hydrating moisturiser that would be suitable for use with Retin A? I would like something as natural as possible ingredients wise. It doesnt have to be anti aging or anything like that as I want to try and be kind to my skin with regards to products I use as I think my skin is screaming for mercy at all the lotions and potions I have used and scrubbed it with for the last few years.

A company with international shipping would be ideal as I am based in the UK.

Thanks once again for taking your time to advise me :D

Best wishes
Sadiemay
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orangehrzn



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I don't know super hydrating moisturizer that is not oily, oils are the best moisturizers and nothing else can match them. You could try vaseline or even cooking oil (canola oil, olive oil, sunflower oil etc) - the important thing is to not get breakouts from it and each skin is different in that aspect. Safflower oil (the variety high in polyunsaturated fats) is pretty calming, moisturizing and non-comedogenic and the best part is that it has no smell so you won't smell like a salad. It is probably the best substitute for Avocado oil if your skin develops a mild reaction to it due to the retinoids.

Before using retinoids, Avocado oil used to calm my skin redness. Now my skin gets slightly pinkish 10 mins after I apply it. So if you develop that and don't like it, use safflower oil or any oil that you find soothes your skin but does not break you out. By the way Jojoba oil is not moisturizing enought, it's actually a wax not an oil.

Alternatively, you could just buy the Renova version of Retin A which is moisturizing by itself and not use anything else.
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